Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Okay, how about me.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Thoughts on why that is? But I'm sure you hope.
Question is, are you doing it massively or abundance? Like, it's. It's.
What's up, Austin? How's it going, buddy?
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Going well, Frank. Thank you for having.
[00:00:26] Speaker B: Absolutely.
So welcome, everybody. Another episode of Frank after 40. Today we have Austin Page, and I am excited to hear his story and get into.
We're going to talk some health. We're going to talk some nutrition. Hopefully we'll get into. You know, I mentioned before we got on here just a little few minutes ago about maybe some supplements. There's a lot. There's a lot to talk about in the health space, especially now that I feel like, you know, in the last year or two, I've been in this space as well for quite a while and eating clean and focused on what's in our food and all that jazz, and hopefully we can get into a little bit of that. But I feel like ever since Robert Kennedy got into office, there's been. Now that's like the beginning of a movement. Now I'm just seeing constant people in the grocery store, don't eat this meat. Talk about it. So I'm really excited to have a lot of this conversation. Are you. You seeing the same thing?
[00:01:18] Speaker A: You know, Jeff, I feel like it's fun, even that, that momentum of, like, being more conscious about what you're putting into your body type of deal as far as your foods, the sources, where it's coming from, stuff like that. It's definitely been on a trending upward, like, path even before rfk, but, like, definitely now that he's in, it's brought more awareness, which I think is a good thing. Overall, it's a net positive, but I think some people are splitting hairs on some aspects. Nonetheless. I could ramble on about it, but yeah, I'm seeing some of this.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I'm interested to hear what you think people are splitting hairs on because that'll be a fun conversation because I have an idea of where you might go, but I'm not sure. But before we get into all that, why don't you tell everybody about what you do, where you're at, and then I can't wait to hear about, like, we like to go early years, talk about how you grew up, and then I want to hear your story, man. But tell us where you're at and what you do.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
So thank you for the introduction, by the way, but my name is Austin Page. For those of you who don't know, I am located out of Richmond, Virginia. And I have been a coach for over a decade. In person coach, starting off, and now I do online and in person coaching. And I built my own business or brand into my own private gym that I'm currently in now and started from not even having this path of direction over 10 years ago, not knowing what I was doing with my life, sort of aimless, purposeless. And that got me into a lot of trouble, which involuntarily flipped the switch in my life to where I was. Okay, I need. Something needs to change for things to change. And that change needed to happen with me. Person in the mirror. So it's taken a while, years of endless refinement of building the person I am today and hopefully, you know, leveling up from here. But that's what I. That's what, that's me and what I do, I help people level up and find their own flip of the switch per se that can transition them into starting to build that person that they would admire.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: I love it. I love it.
Well, I always like to ask about early years in someone's life because I find that a lot of times there's some connection between like what happened to them when they were young or how they grew up or family life and, and kind of where they end up. So I just think it's interesting. So tell me about, have you always lived there? Where did you grow up? Tell me about family life and kind of CliffsNotes version of how you got to where you are today.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: Yeah, grew up in a great, great household, at least to what I think, and had older brothers, sisters, younger brothers and sisters. I was a middle child, bigger family, and came up great. Great upbringing, love my parents, they took great care of me. I never had like any issues with anything or never was neglected per se. But fast forward a little bit to like my high school years. I went to private school for a good bulk of my high school years. And I think for me that sort of made me miss out on maybe some social aspects and friend groups and whatnot and missing out on some of those things that you get going to public schools. Because this private school I went to K through 12, there was a total of 40 people. So like from 3 years old up to 18 years old, there was 40 people spans. So there wasn't many clicks or friends per se, that were even my age. And there was only like one chick that was my age that I happen to date.
You know, it's like it was always like, yeah, straight up. I mean, it was so was a. It was A weird time, but I didn't know any differently because I was, you know, 15, 16, 17. Well, 13 through. Through about 16, 17. And anyways, in my later years, almost about to graduate, I really wanted to go to public school. I felt like I was missing that aspect and convinced my parents to let me go to public school.
Went. And that's when I found my way into just wanting to be the popular guy, wanting to be known, you know, it was my senior year. I didn't know any of these people. I wanted to be the party guy, the fun guy. So that went to me, partying a lot, chasing things that weren't really making me happy, ultimately losing happiness in the same place I was looking for it. Drinking, drugs, partying, chasing chicks, things like that that most younger guys, not everybody, but a lot of younger guys can do. I don't know what you're talking about. And I was with different.
Yeah.
So, you know, chasing all that stuff that really wasn't returning to me. But at the. At the immediate time, it made me feel good in the moment, you know, it made me feel like I had some type of purpose, some type of confidence in me. It was all fake. And that led into college, obviously. Me still wanting to be that guy, that Persona and having that identity of just sort of not knowing who I was ultimately and chasing things that weren't really making me happy, but I thought they were.
Long story short, went to a few parties, obviously, and one of these parties I went to, I wanted to get in my car and go home. I wanted to go sleep in my own bed that night. So got in my car. I don't remember getting my car.
People from the. The party, weeks and months later told me that they. Austin, just disappeared and went to my car, got in the car, went home and made it about a mile away from the house. Typical story. Ran off the road drunk, blacked out, don't remember.
And flipped my car a couple times. And that's where things got real, real quick.
Was obviously rescued by first responders, taken to the hospital, realized that I had ruptured my bowel or perforated my intestines and broke both my legs from the knees down. And some other injuries as well.
But it seemed like a twilight zone because I woke up in the hospital when I actually started to come to from being drunk and drugged up from the morphine or whatever they're giving me. I looked down to see this gaping hole in my stomach where they had left me open with like a wound vac per se. It was almost Like a sponge, like material. And they left me open like that for a couple days. And most people just don't understand it, but it was a game.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: I saw the picture.
I was. I had to do a double take because I was like, is that his stomach?
[00:07:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: I saw those pictures. That was pretty crazy.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah, they left me open, I think, for like two or three days like that, to help pull out infectious juices, let things, I guess, quote unquote, heal. And it was mainly me fighting infection, like that was going to be the ultimate end. All for me was sepsis. The broken bones heal, stuff like that heals. But the infection is what was sort of in limbo for me, knowing if I was going to make it through or not. At least that's what the doctor was, the chaplain. All those people were telling me that things weren't looking good as far as my white blood cell, all those numbers. But fortunately, one day broke, started to heal, started to recover. This goes on for weeks. I stayed in the hospital for about six weeks and then was moved from the hospital to a rehabilitation center to where I learned how to do all, like, the simple things of life that we take for granted, like walking, getting yourself off the toilet, getting yourself out of bed, relearning all that stuff. Lived there for two months.
And from there I realized things needed to change as far as what I did, the actions, decisions I make, because obviously those things almost killed me. And it wasn't a complete 180 leaving that place. I still went and touched that hot stove a few more times, getting in trouble here or there, but ultimately just realizing that I saw these patterns of going back down the wrong way, that I needed something bigger to lean into, bigger purpose. And that purpose was building myself instead of sabotaging, taking steps backwards with the party and the drinking, the chasing things that aren't truly bringing me happiness or building me. And long story short, started working out, built myself and wanted to realize, or wanted to see what I could do with it as far as making money, making a career out of it, a business, and reached out to a local gold's gym, started personal training, did that for a few years, did very well with it, and realized it was something I could do my own. I really wanted to do on my own and make it my own business, my own brand. So a couple years back, took the leap and been doing it for myself for about four or five years now.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: That's awesome.
So if I look back, you know, a lot of us have had some sort of similar path, right? We've had some areas where we're like, okay, we need to make a change or going down that wrong path or tempted to go down the wrong path.
What could someone have said to you at that time before you got in that car or around that time that would have helped you say, I need to make this change now? Was there anything anyone could do or would it. Did it have to be an experience like that that woke you up to be like, I am not on the right path?
[00:09:53] Speaker A: I don't think anybody. People told me, my parents, I mean, they never knew that I was drinking and driving like that. They knew that I was partying a little hard and underage. And then during those times just almost living like I was 10 foot tall and bulletproof. Yeah, I was right.
Nothing would ever happen to me. I wouldn't hurt my own self. I'm not dumb.
And no, nothing thinking like that is.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: You know, we all do it. I do the same thing. That's dumb. You know what I mean? It's like, what?
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, nobody. Because people were telling me back then, you know, you're gonna hurt yourself. You're gonna end up locked up, you're gonna. Who knows, you could kill yourself. You aren't going down a good path at all. Like, we've seen this before. Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about. I know what I'm doing.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: Of course.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. I just, I wonder because there's gonna be people that listen to this and say, you know, they're there or they're, you know, and. And there's probably nothing anyone can say to them. But I think that's the tough part.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: I think a lot of people, not everybody has to go through something like I went through a literally like life changing event like that. But it could be maybe a health scare, you know, it could be maybe you losing your partner, your spouse, your wife, your husband. For you doing actions or habits that aren't aligned with whatever, it could be you losing your job.
There's got to be a pain point for sure. And it was for me, you know, even though I almost lost my life during that wreck, like I said, it wasn't a complete 180 once I left that rehab center of not finding my way back into trouble and starting to party a little bit, getting back into my old ways and old habits, that I sort of cut the head off the snake, per se. After a couple close calls, I was like, whoa, I'm going back down the same path. I'm going to be there, before I know it, I'm going to be dead or locked up.
And the pain of changing outweighed the pain of staying the same.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Gotcha.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Or vice versa. I might have messed that up, but nonetheless, there was a pain point that made me, was like, you know, I'm done. Like, I'm. I. I got to change. And if ultimately, if I wanted to be happy with myself, I need to change because I realized deep down while I was chasing those things, because I wasn't.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, gotcha.
So.
Well, before we get into like, the working out and. And that kind of stuff in the. Let's talk a little bit of business. So how did you go? How has it been growing your business?
We will have a lot of entrepreneurs that are going to see this. And, you know, it's not easy. I'm an entrepreneur, multiple companies. It's not easy. So I'm just curious what you have found to be difficult. What you have found rewarding. What are you. What are you constantly, you know, challenged with?
Talk to me about the business and how you've gone on your own and how that's been.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: For me, ultimately, this is for me, I'm sure other people, you know, there's other factors that drive people, right, that give them that fire. But for me, it had to be more than just money.
There had to be a bigger purpose than that. And obviously changing myself and seeing what it's done for me in my own life and the way I feel, because ultimately, like, we all want to feel a certain way. We want to feel good about ourselves, we want to feel confident.
And it's kind of relatable and it crosses over is like you taking care of yourself physically and mentally, regardless of what else is going on in your life. If you can really, like, build yourself, just work on you, the N word, you.
It makes life a little bit more. Not easy. But things like the little problems of the day to day aren't really that big of a deal. When you're putting yourself through hard workouts, holding some dish, understanding to yourself with what you eat with, right? Who you hang out with, who you listen to, you're able to focus on those things you can control, which is you, yourself. And for me, I think getting to, like, the business side and how I've been able to, like, grow it and be where I'm at today is focusing on replicating what I did with myself and trying to find where other people are at and get them to sort of walk the path with me. Because I lead by example. Like It's. It's not the best way to lead. It's the only.
And I think that helps. Whether it's a business from leadership down, it's like, are you.
Are you doing any of the things. Are you talking to talk. You just walk, right. We're only as good as the example we set. So I think for me, it's having a little bit more purpose or higher purpose than just the money of actually helping people as a great focus, at least for me. And the money typically comes when people start to see results or see progress within themselves. Obviously that all takes care of themselves.
And just feeling good, like that's ultimately, that's what everybody wants. They want to feel good. And that's fortunately where I can come in and make that pretty quick, simple change of just focusing on themselves.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: What made you decide? And I'm making some assumptions. So if I'm wrong, tell me I'm a you. It's first form, right.
And is that something you started?
And how did you decide to start your own gym instead of just like using another gym or like just doing sessions? Like, what are you creating an ecosystem? Like, I'm just trying to understand like what made you do what. What. The way you did it.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: I apologize. This, this first warm shirt. That's a stuff in my company that I own.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So my gym is called Gym Flow or my coaching business is called GymFlow. G Y M F L O.
And that started.
It's kind of crazy. It kind of evolved as I.
There's a saying that I heard a while back and it definitely reiterates the direction or how I got here. Is the path illuminated as I walked it? You know, I started to build myself. I started to take those steps forward into physical, mental discipline, having better habits, daily habits that would kept me aligned with the person I wanted to be. Instead of falling back into that old ways and old habits that got me unhappy and not the person I wanted to be. The person that I really just didn't like and obviously got into personal training. And that at first, when I started working for that Gold gym, it wasn't what I thought.
I was training people. I was helping people get better physically. But there was still a mindset thing that was missing in that because it was, come in, I'll see you once a week and I won't see you until next week. Hopefully you do what you should be doing, blah, blah, blah. But you know, people would get results 6 to 8 weeks, 12 weeks. But once they would get to a certain point, they would Usually let go or fall back or fall off completely and I wouldn't see them for months or weeks. And it was because a mindset shift, the new identity hadn't been created into holding that new standard or version of yourself and living that way. And you know, that's where those little goals are great. But once I realized that it was deeper than just, oh, these once a week training things, it needed to be a little bit more encompassing about like mindset training. And generally mindset training is just doing things you don't want to do when you don't want to do it.
That's a simple way to say it, but encompassing a little bit more into that and the, the lifestyle and or habits need to be created to get those sustained long results and create that just ultimately new version of you not just dropping 20 pounds and. All right, we're good. We can go back to our old ways now. Because I was getting frustrated with that and that's what sort of led me to where I'm at today and like evolving it into being a little bit more hands on and a little bit more niche. And I'm not training as many people, but I'm going deeper with these.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Gotcha. That makes sense. Okay.
So it's, it's. You're really just going deep with them and you're really there much as once a week, but in between.
One of the things, one of the difficulties I see in when I coach my business clients and I talk to them, you know, sometimes it bleeds into nutrition and the rest of their life. Right.
Discipline always seems to be an issue and I think it's because you have to want it bad enough, know why you're doing it, that kind of thing. But how do you help people get. Is it just the doing it for 90 days or 30 days so they don't break the cycle of that habit? Like, you know, it's.
I think it's just really difficult. Right. And so to have that discipline and not to do the cookies and not to surround yourself with good food and then still not crack or, you know, not that you can't do it once in a while, but talk to me about, talk about the discipline piece and how you help people overcome that part.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: So for me, and I've used it myself, and I try and get most of my clients to think about it this way to help bring discipline because at first, yeah, you're gonna, it's gonna be tough, you know, doing anything. Yeah, right. Not just fitness, health, diet, whatever, learning how to play guitar for the first time is probably pretty tough. And what, what you try and do is, or at least for me, is break it down into like, all right, a brand book, a personal brand book.
What, what does Frank's brand book look like? What does that, that future version of him look like? Does. What does he wear? How does he show up? What does he do day to day? What type of job does he have? Does he live? I mean, you don't have to have all those things in it, but, like, what does that future version of you look like? Okay, what daily actionable things can I start to implement or that I need to follow and adhere to, or at least be aligned with that is going to produce and build that person I want to become.
And everything else that doesn't fall in line with that person that I've sort of written out and vision I shouldn't be doing anymore. I should. It's successes of removal, typically a subtractive process. It's never really a ton of adding. It's a lot of things. More so is removing just the things that aren't aligned with the person you want to be. And most likely that's just going to shoot you off like a rocket, some, sometimes faster, sometimes slower than others, but it's going to remove anchors and let. Let some of the good habits that are left do their thing. And I think it starts off with figuring out who you want to be. And it's hard at first, but there's people around us that we admire, right? There's somebody that we follow on social media or we see it within our own lives, whether somebody's dad or somebody's uncle or. Then it'd be a guy, it could be a girl, whatever. There's somebody that you admire and you, you like the way they conduct themselves. You like what they have going on. They seem like they have it all together. They. They hold themselves a certain standard. When they show up to events or to a room, you're like, damn, that person's got it and start to break down. All right, how does that person conduct themselves? Do you think they eat this or they eat that? You think they drink this or they drink that? Do you think they skip this or they skip that? How do they conduct themselves? You don't have to become them, but implement some of those habits that they're doing and it's. It's that simple. I mean, it's. It goes a little bit. Yeah, of course, but that's a. It's a simple way to get yourself off the ground and holding some type of discipline, like, all right, what's aligned with that person I want to be, and one day at a time trying to make the best decisions and actions that are ultimately in the same path as that.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: I like how you put that. That success is more of a taking things away than adding things. I think that's really smart. I love the way you put that. I always talk to my clients about elimination, delegation or automation, you know? Right. And that's kind of elimination. But the way you said it is really cool. I agree with that.
So talk to me about limiting beliefs. I see a lot of my clients, they always have limiting beliefs and it's amazing how quick and easily they pop back into your brain. How do you get people to walk through that or to eliminate a limiting belief when they come to you? Because I'm sure people have those when they come to you.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: So there's, there's exercises or actions that you can implement to start building belief in general under yourself. Right. Like if you don't have much belief in you at all, or put these limiting beliefs like, oh, I can't do this, or I don't have time for that, whatever, we all see it.
I'm no saint.
But starting I mentioned this earlier, it's controlling the things that you can control. And it's very like a stoic esque process or way of thinking. It's what can you control?
And focus on doing that to start and when you can control or bring some type of discipline maybe to your wake up time, like setting an alarm and saying, all right, I'm getting up at this time, I'm not hitting snooze and whatever again, you might, you might fail, whatever. But the more you can just hold a standard to the things that you can control, your wake up time, what you eat, what you drink, who you hang around with, who you listen to, what you do with your body, all those things we truly do have control over. Regardless of what's going on with Tom, Dick and Harry over there, or this part of the family over here, or your boss, you can still control those things.
And the moment you can start to maybe build a daily process of like some actionable things like that and set my wake up time for this time so I can make wake up, make time for that workout or that walk that I always say I wanted to do, but I keep pushing it off to Monday or that I'm going to set time aside on Sunday, wake up earlier or stay up later, whatever, to prepare some meals for the next couple days so I can control What I eat instead of just, oh, I'm going to eat whatever's at work today.
Because I, I, that's what I got to do is no, we can backwards plan and control those things. The moment you can start to hold a little bit of a, a structure to those things, those just the things you can't control and you start to win. One data time. All right. I woke up, damn, I woke up at, at 5 instead of 6 this morning.
Okay, I can do that. You start to build little wins and little confidence because those, those actions or like that work is what builds the belief over time. It's, it's like a skill, right?
And breaking their self limiting beliefs, which is just lack of confidence is for the most part is, is done through like repetitions. And the more you can do something that no matter how little, even like I said waking up a little bit earlier, it builds a little bit more belief in you. Like, damn. Okay, I follow through on that. I held my own word. And that's probably the biggest part is like man, I, I can do, you know, and it's the more streets, the more W's you can, you can lay out in a row across the calendar, the more proof of concept or proof of confidence in yourself you build. But vice versa, if you, if you miss, you keep missing, it's only going to dig a deeper and deeper hole and put a bigger mound of dirt in front of you where you'll like, damn, I suck, man. Like, but you can break that by just drawing again. It's like you, you, I think you mentioned earlier, you got to hate your situation enough or you gotta have a why.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: Like a big enough.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: Yeah, a why. Yeah, big enough why? Of like, hey, whether it's my kids and most of the time that's what it needs to be. A bigger purpose outside of you. If you can't do it for, you do it for.
Is the way you're living, the way you conducting yourself, the way you're showing up daily, is it inspiring somebody or is it giving them a bad example? Like that's, that's one thing that helps me get out of that. It's like not for me. I mean, yeah, of course I want to live a certain way, look a certain way, feel a certain way. But is, is that is my life inspiring anybody? If not, then what? Like, you don't have to be some, you know, Greek God or like this higher than whatever version of whatever, but there, there has to be some type of mission behind it. Whether it is higher than you like somebody Else or other people around you, Your kids, your wife, your husband, whatever. And living into that.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that's the. And everybody's different, right? So. But I think you're right. You gotta know what it is. And I, like you said, I think I find that sometimes the most powerful reasons people come up with are for other people, not just themselves. So I think your kids, your family or whatever.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: Right.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: So. So for sure.
Okay, so we get past the limiting beliefs and we get past the. The mindset troubles.
There's so much being said in the health space right now. And every time I see somebody new come on and I, you know, I consume a lot of health content, a lot of nutritional content. Like, what's going on? What should people drink and eat and supplement and.
And I almost feel like it's getting. It's great that it's coming out, but I wonder sometimes if it's getting overwhelming for the average person and they're like, I'm over it. Like, I'm over, You know, every. There's a funny Instagram. There's a guy, and he's on Instagram and it. And he plays clips of voices, but it's him. And he's in the kitchen and he's about to make breakfast, and it says. And then he plays a clip from something. It's the Voice, and it's like, whatever you do, don't eat oatmeal. Because if you eat oatmeal, here's what happens. And so you see him throwing the oatmeal out, and then he goes to something else. He grabs, and he's like, okay. And he starts cooking it in, and they're like, don't eat an egg, because if it's not pasture raised is this. And it's this long video, and it's so funny. And so I'm just curious for you, like, where do you start with people? And how do you help them navigate all the noise right now, whether it's supplements or working out? And how do they start and what should they be doing? Where are you taking them?
[00:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah, well, for the most part, a lot of people that start working with me, they already. They already have a lot of bad habits, per se, of like, whether it's food, alcohol, drugs, or, you know, because I work with a good amount of people that are in my group or in recovery themselves. And so they already had maybe some bad habits and bad lifestyles to begin with. And I'm like, hey, you know, you might hear these things. And ultimately, at the End of the day, you know, anything can kill you, right?
Most things overdone can kill you. So what's best to do is instead of having paralysis by analysis of listening to Tom, Dick and Harry on Tick Tock and Instagram about, oh, you better eat this, better start doing that.
Let's just put some simple, simple tasks together of like, all right, we're gonna focus on not what you should eat, but how much of what you should eat, you know, or how much of how much you should eat, you know, and start with there, and then from there we can fine tune and like, all right, maybe let's focus on these food choices. Maybe some whole food choices instead of some of those process things. I'm very simple when it comes to the coaching. I don't typically tell people what they should eat. I tell people how much they should eat. And I of course give, like, help. Like, if somebody's. I don't even know where to start still though, and say, all right, well, let me build out a meal plan. Like, actually get down to the nuts and bolts with. You do that. But I typically don't restrict people or tell them like, hey, they can't have this, they can't have that because I, I eat what I want, but it's all within a certain melts, right?
And it's called, at least for me, it's called tracking macronutrients, protein, carbs and fats for the day. And if you hit those numbers with pizza, you can eat it. Hit it with pizza if you want. If you hit it with chicken breast, you can hit it with chicken breast. It doesn't matter to me. Ultimately, at the end of the day, we're probably building some better habits. We're probably eating a little bit better. We're, we're at least being mindful aware with what we're eating. So live life and don't live stressed like that. I don't know for me personally, fortunately, I. People send me, I do have people that send me videos like that on Instagram. Some of my clients or just friends that whatever are always asking questions. I'm like, unfollow that person as quickly as possible because they're going to leave you afraid with everything just, you know, consciously probably what you should be doing, start doing that, stop doing less or start doing less of what you know you shouldn't be doing. Like, we all have this conscious, our conscious in us that knows, all right, I shouldn't eat that, right? I should avoid that a little bit more. I know that's overdoing it like, and just listen like, keep it simple. I mean at least for me, everybody that's gotten crazy transformations results and continue to do that is it's nothing over overly complicated and, or I'm never fear mongering. Like it's, there's, there's something weird to it, man. And I, I wish I had a little bit better like explanation on like how to fix that or why, but I, I dumb it down. Yeah.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: It sounds like what you're saying is most people, it's like, don't drink Mountain Dew, you know, let's keep it simple. And this other stuff is more like, okay, now you got a six pack. How do we get really. Like that's really extreme.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: So yeah, there's levels to it for sure. Yeah. But ultimately, you know, it's, it's pretty simple moving forward. And I guess the question you could ask yourself outside of whatever anybody's spewing out on their TikTok or their Instagram that you see that's trending or viral is, is this thing I'm about to put in my body, is it serving me or not?
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:24] Speaker A: Do I think it's going to serve and you know, you know, I know. Like, you probably know. All right, is that thing serving me or not? Okay, it is. All right, I'm probably going to choose that. If it's not serving me, I know it's just purely pleasure or some dopamine hit or whatever. All right, let me avoid that. Maybe not remove it completely from my life, but let me eat less of that. Focus on this. Yeah, you can do both.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if we're talking about working out, you know, obviously it seems nowadays there's really a large focus on muscle mass for longevity and all that. And then, then you have to eat a lot of protein.
So I'm just curious what a lot of you're instructing a lot of your people to do as far as mix on.
I don't want to say cardio, I guess now would be the term would be VO2 max. Like, what are you doing to like, make sure your endurance is good and then also weightlifting? So are you, are you merging the two? And I know every case is different, but in general, you know, what are you finding works for people and what are you having your clients do?
[00:31:27] Speaker A: Yeah, for the most part, dropping as much body fat as possible as quickly as possible helps overall endurance and output. At least for with my clients, you know, the, the less they weigh, the more endurance and output they'll get. And while they're doing that. There's some type of structured weight training because like you said, muscle mass is very important, not only for the aesthetics, for the looks, but having that extra muscle mass typically correlates with better overall health.
And when you're doing that focused on some type of structured regimen, or not structured regimen, some type of plan as far as you're eating, you know, not eating whatever you want, because that got us to where we don't want to be typically, but having some type of discipline with it, monitoring what goes in it, and structured that with some training, they typically blend themselves. Next thing you know, because of losing body fat and increasing muscle mass, their overall VO2 max goes up just indirectly, you know. But yeah, there's things that other people need that additional cardio, whether they have other health issues going on or whatever. Like it is case to case. But typically I don't get many people to add in a ton of extra cardio or running or maybe occasional walking just to get some blood moving or some steps in. But I try and let the, the nutrition do most of the work.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: And how important do you think? I mean, I, I have my own thoughts, but you're the expert. It feels like in my opinion, nutrition is a majority of the difference. I mean, working out matters, obviously, but you know, you got to get your diet right and that's where you see the results.
Do you agree with that or am I wrong or what do you, what are your thoughts on that?
[00:33:09] Speaker A: No. 100%. 100%. We all have seen somebody or know somebody that goes to the gym multiple days a week, does hours of cardio and still looks the same or most likely worse over time. And it's because they aren't monitoring or putting efficiency filter. Not to say we can't enjoy foods or whatever, but like they aren't, they're oblivious to what they're putting in their body, thinking they can outwork it. And that's ultimately going to leave you frustrated and not making much progress and, or burning yourself out. So the food is what?
I mean, if, if you think about it, the food is truly what brings the weight on. It's food and lack of activity, obviously. But if, if one culprit is you're just overeating, everybody's just overeating if they have a, an excess amount of body fat. And to reverse that, you feed the body less, it loses the weight. You don't even have to work out really. You know, you could just eat less and you'll lose weight. But we obviously Want to build some muscle tone and don't look like a stack of potatoes once we lose a bunch of weight. Yeah, but no, it's the food. It's the food. 100, like, I mean probably not 100, but it's a good 80, 90 of the, the root cause is food.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: What do you find? One of the struggles that I have myself is getting enough protein in the day. I mean I, you know, I at one point was tracking my macros. Now I don't, I'm not right now, but I know I'm not getting the amount of protein I need, which would be for me about 180 grams of protein. And I'm like, holy cow when I think about it.
So like what. When it comes to like supplementation to make it easy for someone who's not a huge eater. I used to be a big faster and now it's just about, I try and focus on protein.
But what kind of supplementation as far as shakes and stuff? How do people pick the right supplements or the right shakes? Because then they're like, okay, is whey good for you? Is it not? And getting clean protein and plant based ver, you know, versus whey. What do you, what kind of direction do you get people on that?
Any.
[00:35:02] Speaker A: I don't typically give them any direction I wish I had because I don't at the end of the day, the numbers, the numbers for me. So as long as you can get close to the numbers, however possible.
At the end of the day when you digest it, protein breaks down into amino acids in your gut, carbohydrates. Whether it's potatoes, rice or sour, Sour Patch Kids that gets broken down into glucose in your, in your body.
So ultimately it ends up as the same thing. So I mean, yes, they're better sources and less processed that we want to eat. That's kind of overall.
Yeah, overall we do want to probably focus on some whole food as much as possible. But I, I do for the amount of protein that I eat a day. Yeah, I'm definitely incorporating like two to three servings of whey protein of some aspect into my day. And I typically like wages because it's the most generic one out there. It's the most available one out.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: You know, I'm sure you can find a great plant based one.
You can find other proteins as well as far as like the grass fed protein isolates, all those, all the differences.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: But you're like, just get it, stick.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: With the, just get it in. And I'm not too, I sound like a Robot. When I say that, I'm like, oh, I just numbers, I do the workout, blah, blah. But it's taken over time, you know, over time to just going back to the beginning of like splitting hairs. Yeah. All right. Should I focus on this little thing or that little thing? No, let me, let me just focus on the basics of. Let me get this in, let me hit the number, let me get the workout in and let me drink some water and do that one day at a time and Damn. A lot of things when you can just focus on those little small. There's a couple little things a day. Over compounding days, a lot can change. But if you're stuck on like, oh, should I do this or do that? Like at first, just nail down the basics and become a pro at that or really good. And once you get good at that, then like getting those ads, but you want to go to the next level, then we can start to fine tune. Okay. Instead of doing that whey whey protein, let's go with that whey protein isolator, that grass fed one. Let's start adding that and see what it does, you know, or how our body reacts to that. But at first I think just to get, hopefully the general. Most people going is just focus on those little base hits daily of like just hitting the number, just, just doing what I said I was going to do. And then over time, once you have enough proof on the board of like, okay, I'm gonna stick with that now let me fine tune it. Let me, let me dial this little thing in here, this little thing over there and squeeze out that extra 5% over there or whatever.
But no, for me, I don't. Typically there are a few people that I do tell them, hey, you have no, we have very little discipline at all right now. So I'm going to tell you exactly meal by meal what you're eating, because your results are my results. So I want, I'm gonna, I don't coddle people a ton, but out the gate, if I don't see much moving, I'm like, all right, let me take the wheel. I'm gonna steer this thing for you. Because your way of thinking has not gotten.
[00:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: So but for the most part, I let people have some range on what they want to do and if they feel like it's not good for their health, all right, we'll choose something else. As long as it hits those numbers or it's close. I mean, it's not about being perfect. It's like horseshoes and hand grenades. With those.
I'm not very strict with myself.
Close. One day at a time, you're going to have some changes.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Okay, so what are the top three things or misconceptions or what you think like hey don't.
That people are paying attention to that shouldn't and maybe what are top. What are three that they're not paying attention to that they should.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think a lot of people are paying attention to like some of these.
I don't. Like, I don't. I guess I'm going to call them this because for lack of better terms but like fad diets like keto, carnivore, whatever else is out there because it's very restrictive and that's, that's a big thing that working with people that have either tried to lose weight themselves and now they want to come on because they've been frustrated by trying to follow these things and. Or they just, they're just following the crowd or following Tick Tock or Instagram because that's the next hottest thing. And it's like the question I ask is all right, can you do it? Can you do this for the rest of your life? Because obviously like it's, it's something. It's if you can't and it's kind of a fad thing so you're not going to be able to do it sustainably. And for me I'm going to keep harping on the macro things because if you do just follow those numbers, you can fill it in with whatever you want. There's nothing restrictive about it. It restricts how much you can eat, but it, it doesn't hold restriction on what you can eat.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: I got you.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: So it still lets you live and whatnot. So I, that's probably why one big let's peeve thing for me is people following not into a trap because maybe that helps them get the initial weight off but then they, they, they're so caught up in it with their identity that they like get burnt out on trying to stick with it. It's like that's not the only way. It's probably not the most sustainable way by restricting a whole food like thing on the pyramid of what you could eat and still make progress results. Next thing would probably be.
Probably be.
Say it.
There's something great about it though because I do it involuntarily some days with fasting.
Not that it, it doesn't work. It does work, but it's not like the, like that's what's again like, are you going to do that for forever. But it is great, I think, for a mental aspect, spiritual aspect too. It's all done through religion for thousands of years. Thousands of years, yeah, because it helps get you more like. And it makes you think a lot, makes you realize that you have more control. And I think that that helps build discipline to it as well. But I don't think a lot of people, when they, the reason I bring it up is because they'll reach out to me or start with me on the program or within my group. Yeah, I'm going to start fasting. You don't have to. We can make it.
We don't. I mean it's great if you want to help build some discipline and restricting yourself to eat throughout these windows. But it's not the only way to lose weight. Probably not for most of these people. They start, they start to like, try and get too fancy with it. It's just like, hey, let's just have a calorie intake for the day and let's not go over that number. And we're going to start, we're going to start getting in the right direction. But I can't think of a third thing off the top of my head. But those, those are two things.
I think fasting is great again.
[00:41:15] Speaker B: Well, from what it seems like recently, it seems like they.
Fasting's not as great as they thought on a regular basis. It's more like one day to three days once in a while and that's it. And otherwise get your protein in. Is it kind of what I'm, I'm seeing out there? So.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think it's great. I do think it's great.
It probably does give your, your digestive system a little bit of a break for sure. And I, again, I'm thinking the mental aspect and mindset and I think anything that can help sharpen that and build some internal discipline with the thing that you can control, which is, hey, restricting myself from eating for them, okay, that's, that's a big deal. That's obviously the root cause of many of the people that I work with is just they can't control what these two things pick up and put into their mouth. Like they have, they just can't do it. They. If a beer comes in front of them, I can't say no to them. Have a piece of pizza comes in front of them, I can't say no. And that's the root problem. It's just being able to say no and, or not eat the entire thing or not drink the entire thing. And fasting is a great, A great tool for many people to probably build some just discipline of being able to say no for. To yourself for a few hours.
That's tough for a lot of people. They can't listen to themselves. And I, I don't either most days. I'm just stubborn, too. But I think it's a great tool. I can.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
Okay, cool. So is there anything, you know, before I ask you where people can find you, is there anything in general that you're like, hey, this is important that we didn't cover anything. You're like, hey, I want people to take this away from today. What are. Is there anything in general that you want them to know or take away?
[00:42:56] Speaker A: No, it's just mainly that you can create momentum. And I kind of hit on a little bit, but it's something that I reinforce and bring up a lot within my group is you can create a lot of momentum with yourself. Even if you think. Feel like it's just impossible or hopeless or like, man, I just. It's not for me, like everybody else seems to be able to do it. It's just not in the cards for me. It's just when you literally sit back, like today after you listen to this and think about your actions and your decisions over the past week and think about. All right, let me literally think about last week. What did I eat? What was I eating? Did I work out at all? Did I get that exercise on? Did I do those little things that I said I was going to start?
And if not, or if I did, are those things over the last seven days, were they aligned with the person that I truly want to be and, like, start to build in myself the way I want to conduct myself? If not. All right, let's reevaluate. We got a fresh week ahead. Well, it's at the end of the week now, but here in a couple days, we'll have a fresh week ahead to lay out our backwards plans. That's mainly what we do in my group. I'm a simpleton, man. So I. Let's take accountability of the week.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: All right?
[00:44:01] Speaker A: We have a schedule over the next Monday to Sunday. What's that schedule going to look like? What's work look like? What's the kids look like? What's family look like? What's errands, whatever. Let me write that down. Let me backwards plan in. All right, I'm going to cook some food here for the week. I'm going to get these workouts here, here, and Here I'm going to get take care of this there. Like it's just taking accountability with the day.
And once you can do that thing and write all those things that you can control out backwards planet for a week at a time, like, damn, okay, I actually have some structure now. Instead of just shooting from the hip every day hoping that like, the perfect time is going to line up for me to get that done or the perfect time is going to line up for me to go get that to eat. No, just backwards plan and try and hold to that as best you can. Not about being perfect, but really give yourself some structure.
And if you can do that, stack enough W's, Monday through Sunday. Doesn't have to be all W's, but more W's and L's. You start to create momentum and it's like a progress arc. You know, the, the more deposits you make into that bank account, that is you, that newer version of you, the, the, the more that bank account compounds. And next thing you know, over 30, 60, 90 days, your life starts to change. The, the way you start to show up changes, the weight you see in the mirror starts to change. You know, it's done one day at a time and it's the only thing we have today is like today, you know, yesterday we can't change and tomorrow we can't really do anything about what we're doing today that matters.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Love it. Love it, man.
Where can people find you if they want to find you? Where do you want them to go?
[00:45:28] Speaker A: Yeah, check me out. Follow me on Instagram. I'm super active on there. That's pretty much the only thing that I'm on. I do have a YouTube gym flow coaching on YouTube. I, I do post once a week on there, some blogs and some videos, but I'm super active on Instagram daily, either posting about clients, things that work for me, things that work for them, or asking Q&As within my stories. Give me a follow. Hit me up at the. Have any questions? Let's. Let's get active.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: Cool.
Austin, I appreciate it, man. It's. I'm glad that you know, you're here and you made it through that crazy story and thank you for sharing it, but I'm glad you're now fulfilling your potential and changing lives. That's amazing, man.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: I appreciate it.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Appreciate it, man. All right. All right, everybody. Catch you next time. Bye bye.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: It.
